Podcast INCLUDED

Listen to the 11 episodes on reinventing cultural management

• Episode 0. Introduction

  This episode introduces the first season of the podcast produced by the Chair in Organizations and Territories for the Arts, Culture and Creation. Djelloul Arezki and Edina Soldo, co-directors of the Chair, talk about the construction of the podcast, which is a participatory science exercise of the IMPGT's Master in Management and Law of Cultural Organizations and Events.

  An episode proposed by : Djelloul Arezki & Edina Soldo, co-directors of the OTACC Chair

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• Episode 1: Lack of legitimacy, a feminine evil

  This episode looks at the feeling of legitimacy through the professional career and personal identity of Nadia Slimani, a manager in the cultural sector. In this podcast, the notion of legitimacy is redefined as we attempt to analyze the origins of this feeling, and the direct link with our identities and societal norms. Nourished by testimonials, the episode invites you to think differently about forms of management in the cultural sector, and to feel, once and for all, legitimate!

  An episode proposed by : Pelissier Lucie, Farre Céline, Dierx Anne-Laure, Alexis Thomas, Pain Vickie

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• Episode 2: Equality and plurality: women's co-direction and class issues in culture

  Last February, at the Friche de la Belle de Mai, we met Aude KABORÉ in the Radio Grenouille studios. Aude co-directs the Makeda, a concert hall well-known to our dear Marseilles audience, which in March 2019 will succeed the emblematic Poste à Galène in the heart of Marseilles' 5th arrondissement. For over 3 years, the cultural project has been supported by the Orizon Sud association, which works to promote cultural diversity through the "Arts" in the Southern Region. The Makeda team is made up of some fifteen people who are involved full-time in programming, artistic support and cultural action.

  Speaking to Radio Grenouille, Aude tells us about her journey from the creation of the Orizon Sud association to the Makeda project: a journey marked by opportunities and encounters, not least that of Francine Ouedraogo, with whom Aude has co-directed the Makeda since its inception. We'll be taking a particular interest in this atypical pairing, as the club is one of the few in France to be run by two women.

  Marseille's La Plaine district (where Makeda is located) is undergoing radical change. In an era marked by environmental, democratic and inequality-related challenges, what means and actions does Makeda use to forge links between residents and take into account the neighborhood's socio-economic diversity when it comes to frequenting the venue?

  An episode proposed by : Koechlin Lucile, Betrouni Ambre, Sismondini Arthur, Renaudin Angie, Fizet Eugenie, Kammoun Ons

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• Episode 3: Contemporary music, plural cultures?

  The inclusion of women and gender minorities in today's music industry is a major issue. The aim of this episode is to hear our guest Lucie Bonnard's vision of the situation, and to discuss with her the actions that can be put in place to help women take a stand. Discover the Sound Sisters program and find out how two women decided to fight sexism in the contemporary music sector.

  In addition to being a woman who has found her place in the cultural sector, and more particularly in the world of psytrance music within the Association les Merry Pranksters, Lucie is working to support women and gender minorities in the sector through the Sound Sisters program. This program, which she co-constructed with Clara Lagrange, offers women and gender minorities support workshops with a chosen gender mix for greater inclusion in today's music professions, to deconstruct gender stereotypes and develop empowerment. This program also offers them practical experience with the possibility of organizing an event in collaboration with Cabaret Aléatoire, Act Right and the Move UR Gambette project.

  An episode proposed by : Hoarau Chloé, Albaret Lola, Barra Samuel, Beaulieu Aléna, Miceli Jessica, Maria Ida.

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• Episode 4: Expressing feminist commitment through contemporary musical creation

  Our meeting with the director of Piano and Co raises questions about the place of women in the cultural milieu, as well as issues of representation and role models in contemporary creation. Her journey and her commitments in the light of the challenges facing the Marseilles region enable us to discover Euro-Mediterranean projects that give and make sense in a context of inclusion and cooperation. As you listen to this episode, we also invite you to meet a woman artistic director, rich in experience and anecdotes, as well as her Piano and Co project, the first conventioned structure in the PACA region run by a woman! Enjoy your listening.

  An episode proposed by : Gonzales Mathilde, Paletti Valentine, Sename Charlotte, Tognozzi Carla, Renault Jade.

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• Episode 5: Maïmouna Coulibaly, the artist entrepreneur

  In this episode, you'll meet the artist, the dancer, the author, the director... We've drawn on her recordings and some of the extracts from her book that made the biggest impression on us. We ask her about her story, her career path, her status as an artist-entrepreneur and the activism that guides her projects. It's a testimony as poignant as it is dynamic, as Maïmouna shares with us both her traumas and her joie de vivre.

  An episode proposed by : Boutera Kheshia, Carrier Eva, Defaut Flora, Lafitte Valentin, Villarubias Prune.

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• Episode 6: Classical music, women and posture: crossroads

  In this episode, we take you deep into the world of classical music.

  What's on offer? A parallel analysis of two women's careers: a conductor and a student who aspires to become an orchestral musician. We welcome Debora WALDMAN, artistic director and conductor of the Orchestre National d'Avignon - Provence, and Metelyn CURTIS, currently a student at the Institut d'Enseignement Supérieur de la Musique - Europe et Méditerranée in Aix-en-Provence. Our episode will look at the career paths of each of our guests and how they feel about being a woman in a world that is still very much male-dominated. We'll discuss career issues and the difficulties of accessing management positions, as well as questions of legitimacy, constant questioning and the stereotypes that contribute to the invisibilization of female musician-artists. We'll also discuss the question of management within an orchestra, and the role of the different musicians who make it up, the relationship between the conductor and her section leaders and the synergy that must exist between them to make the ensemble work.

  An episode proposed by : Dorizon Elie, Leca Ludivine, Warnet Margaux, Robles-Sauvage Celia, Vuong Chantal.

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• Episode 7: Pernette Bernard: the strength of being a woman in a "man's" profession

  In 2017, according to the Observatoire prospectif des métiers et des qualifications du spectacle vivant, 86% of jobs in technical management and stage management were held by men. Marion, Emma, Elise, Colline and Rose therefore decided to meet with Pernette Benard, stage manager at the Festival de Marseille to discuss the place of women in cultural technical professions. In the course of this exchange, we came back to the importance of female students in technical training, where they are currently under-represented. Pernette Benard takes this opportunity to respond to the testimonies of Elise and Justine, studying at IMFP and CFPTS. Within the same cultural organization, there are job categories that remain highly gendered: administration, public reception and HMC are mostly occupied by women, while technical jobs remain the prerogative of men. The Marseilles Festival is no exception, and Vincent Chiron, its technical director, points to the importance of a "real paradigm shift" that would be enabled in particular by women's access to positions of responsibility.

  An episode proposed by : Gaudry Emma, Raffin Elise, Lechat Coline, Odiot Marion, Merville Rose.

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• Episode 8: Victorine Grataloup, Triangle-Asterides: the art of hospitality

  In 2022, a few months ago, Victorine became director of Triangle-Astérides, a contemporary art center located in Marseille's Friche Belle-de-Mai, a stone's throw from the Radio Grenouille studios where we record. In this episode:

  • His rich background and personal approach to curation.
    
    How does her experience as an exhibition curator influence her position as director today?
  • Her project for Triangle-Astérides.
    
    How does it fit in with the work of existing teams?
  • Hospitality, an essential notion.
    
    In a place that welcomes visitors as well as artists in residence, how do we implement inclusion, in concrete terms, on a daily basis? And what about La Friche?

  An episode proposed by : Chatelet Marine, Debord Orane, Renaudin Jade, Hachami Nadiejda, Schlayen Raphaël.

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• Episode 9: The Margin at the Center

  Assia Ugobor tells us about her experiences in Rio de Janeiro, Bobigny, Gennevilliers and Marseille. In each of her projects, the question of inclusion is present. She talks to us about her vision of this notion, the way she works with it and its limits. Through her relationships with audiences, artists, professionals etc., she makes us understand the importance of being aware of everyone's reality and being able to adapt. She also explains her choices to work on the periphery, in an institution or in a place without doors or windows, and how this affects her projects. Finally, Assia shares with us her hopes and ambitions for the cultural sector in the future.

  An episode proposed by : Sauloup Morgane, Levaillant Laura, Toms Amanda, Leudière Clarisse, Mexler Samantha.

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• Episode 10. Nina Venard: how do you reconcile entrepreneurship, passion and feminist commitment?

  In this episode, you'll meet Nina Vénard, a multi-faceted professional in the cultural sector: salaried project manager for a hip-hop dance company, volunteer project manager for the Permadanse association, a collective bringing together lovers of dance and electronic music, and finally, freelance DJ on the Marseilles scene. Her testimony illustrates a recurrent phenomenon in the cultural sector: the combination of salaried and entrepreneurial activities, often leading to an excessive mental workload and attesting to the precariousness of this field of activity. Our interview with Nina will also be an opportunity to present the job of project manager and to highlight her feminist commitment, which is linked to her activity as a DJ, even though women are very much in the minority in the nightlife world.

  An episode proposed by : Aton Clémence, Bendimered Belinda, Viloria Nicolas, Portal Léa, Doby Clara, Gambotti Sarah.

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